monero-site issueshttps://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues2017-10-21T21:15:07Zhttps://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/408Issue with FAQ section2017-10-21T21:15:07Zmonero-projectIssue with FAQ section*Created by: keatond*
Was looking some info up for a friend and when I went to the FAQ section the last question was a bubble check box instead of a drop down. Is this on purpose? When you click the column it opens the item above it.
!...*Created by: keatond*
Was looking some info up for a friend and when I went to the FAQ section the last question was a bubble check box instead of a drop down. Is this on purpose? When you click the column it opens the item above it.
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https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/441[Meta] User and label list for Label-bot access on monero-site repo discussion2017-10-21T21:03:06Zmonero-project[Meta] User and label list for Label-bot access on monero-site repo discussion*Created by: QuickBASIC*
In case you are not following the Meta repo and you contribute to the site:
Please discuss here: monero-project/meta#103.*Created by: QuickBASIC*
In case you are not following the Meta repo and you contribute to the site:
Please discuss here: monero-project/meta#103.https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/395Download link broken for MacOS GUI client on official website2017-10-20T22:13:45Zmonero-projectDownload link broken for MacOS GUI client on official website*Created by: evantbyrne*
Not sure if this is the appropriate place to report this, but the download link for the MacOS GUI client is broken.
https://downloads.getmonero.org/gui/mac64
â Evan*Created by: evantbyrne*
Not sure if this is the appropriate place to report this, but the download link for the MacOS GUI client is broken.
https://downloads.getmonero.org/gui/mac64
â Evanhttps://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/173-9-15 Missive transcription.2017-10-20T22:13:44Zmonero-project3-9-15 Missive transcription.*Created by: goin2mars*
Might need a solid looking over, I think i got most of the spelling out of the way.
Fluffypony:
Hello and welcome to yet another Monero missive podcast i'm Fluffypony and i'm joined today by several people
Ging...*Created by: goin2mars*
Might need a solid looking over, I think i got most of the spelling out of the way.
Fluffypony:
Hello and welcome to yet another Monero missive podcast i'm Fluffypony and i'm joined today by several people
Gingeropoplus
Hi everyone how are you doing
Fluffypony:
And tom who you may know as tewinget
Tom:
Hello
Fluffypony:
And Binaryfate
Binaryfate
my name
Fluffypony:
and Krongol
Krongol:
hi everybody
Fluffypony:
so because of the amount of stuff that we seem to be covering in each weeks missive podcast we obviously havenât been able to touch on external projects a recap for everyone that doesnât know what external projects is its the section of the missive that deals with projects that are not by the core team, theyâre by members of the community or anyone really thatâs doing something interesting
that involves Monero.
OK you know mymonero seems to be growing in popularity and obviously one of the concerns that people have had is the ability to you know they want to be able to use mymonero mymonero exploits and they donât want to lose access to their funds for want of a better term. And they're still in control of their funds they're in control of their private key but we do recognize that there is a need for simplewallet to be able to use the mymonero style keys
so thatâs something we are working on and thatâs something thatâs something that were quite close to but what were happy to announce is the availability of an import wallet function so if you have an existing simplewallet mnemonics 25 word you will now be able to import your wallet into mymonero however this doesnât come free and if youâve ever done a wallet restore
then youâll know that it is a little bit painful because a wallet restore takes several hours even on a snappy machine so for us to import wallets we have to incur a cost purely for processing perspective and that has to be handed over to customers
so at this initial stage were gonna be charging 10 Monero for a wallet import, its a once off cost youâll never need to pay it again and it will run from there on out with no additional fees for importing it
and obviously i mean as time progresses and depending on how successful this feature is we may look at reducing the cost or whatever depending on how it scales
and obviously one of the other things is we do support all the mnemonic languages that Monero supports and will continue adding support for them as they increase and the ability to go the opposite route you know to go from mymonero into simplewallet um should be in simplewallet shortly
and then really the last prong of this three pronged attack (chuckle) that were doing is to give people the ability to create watch only wallets which effectively you can kinda fake now um in a way by importing your view key with a random spend key but well have proper watch only wallet functionality soon
Gingeropolus:
so cool to see you just log in to check like how much you have in your account
if anyone has sent you anything
Fluffypony:
yeah and its not in a manner that can be exploited because we wont have your spend key and even if we try to change the javascript we still wouldnât have your spend key
Gingeropolus:
mhm
Fluffypony:
oh yeah so pretty much so last since we did external projects thereâs a newcomer on the scene thatâs kinda exciting. xmr.to so xmr. to and thatâs why today we have Krongol and Binaryfate who are both from xmr.to theyâre part of the team
so to start off why donât you guys tell us a little bit about what xmr.to is either of you
Krongol:
alright so um we're bunch of um computer science researchers in facts thereâs three of us thereâs us the two of us and arnuschky whose also known I'm the newer guy but these other guys have been involved in crypto for a longer time and
uh Binaryfate i think has been aware of the whole Monero stuff right from the beginning. he got uh me and arnuschky excited about the whole space weâve been looking to get into crypto for a while
weâve just recently got to be called cryptos first system which is the brand wee wanna get involved with that we wanna use and we want to do something simple and quick to get to put our toes in the water so we came up with this idea that one of the things is great and exciting about mymonero is the whole anonymity but the problem is that its very hard to spend this stuff
where as everyoneâs spending bitcoin so the idea was quite a simple one just uh try and enable people to spend Monero but in bitcoin world.
Binaryfate can you tell us a little bit about how xmr.to works from a users perspective
Binaryfate:
From the user perspective its quite simple in fact basically you um you want to send to bitpay or pay for something online but give a bitocin address and you send a bitocin amount.
what xmr.to is doing is to be in automatic gateway to pay these bill in bitocin for you and of using xmr
so in the end it gives the ability for the user to buy anything with bitcoin while only spending Moneros
so xmr.to gives the possibility to the end user basically to send bitcoin to purchase any kind of goods online with bitcoin that is now probably accepted unlike Moneros
so the user can purchase stuff with bitcoin by only paying Monero.
Fluffypony:
I myself tried the thing out within like the first hours of you guys posting i dunno if you recall so yeah i was able to just plug in the bitcoin address i had and pay my self with Monero you know my question in these things is always from the new user you know just pretend I'm some guy that watched the Superbowl and was like oh bitcoin and then read about oh Monero how secure is it what are the processes of it where i can be sure that I'm actually sending Monero and itâll turn up as bitcoin somewhere. Again this is the whole trusting a third party thing so i dunno if you guys could elaborate
Binaryfate:
i think thereâs two different aspects to this. so one is just to trust any third party instead of some random person on the internet i mean in a way thereâs not that much you can do about it
Gingeropolus:
right right
Binaryfate:
beyond just trying with just small amounts and i guess thatâs kind of what we've seen people doing already
Fluffypony:
you know when it comes down to it you also gotta tryst the company youâre buying from anyways. so you're adding another layer to it meow.
this is the same as what everything on the internet before the community as well so you see that people have had positive experiences and the thing hits a critical mass and then you can be fairly confident that it works. you will feel the first couple of users that its just this weird black box that you donât know whats coming out the other end
Gingeropolus
Yeah just to mention that as you said its something that we witness anywhere in general because we are to trust the merchant or we are to trust bitpay to actually act as a gateway and not to keep your bitcoin so its just one layer that people i think are quite used to
yeah i think the most important thing for me to mention is that there is absolutely no trust involved for anything that is um privacy related so you spend your Monero and we dunno anything more than that.
Gingeropolus:
mhm
Binaryfate:
because Monero is not traceable back so we can really the only information that we know about you is your ip address but if you reach xmr.to through some um anonymous networks like tor i2p then there is not much that we can do even if we were some really bad guys we would like to we couldn't do anything basically which is very nice
Gingeropolus:
yeah
Binaryfate:
no problem for the user
Fluffypony:
i think the one key advantage as well is um most of the you know a lot of the losses that have occurred when in crypto wen people have had to trust third parties have been things like exchanges with they've left money on the exchange and with you guys its straight through you dump Monero in and out pops the bitcoin and thereâs not really much of an interval in between where things can go wrong
Binaryfate:
yeah
and on that front one of the things weâve tried to the do on the user interface is to make it very responsive so that basically you can always see that something is happening so we actually spent like a bit of extra time um on it with a bit of extra development effort monitoring the transaction pool rather than just waiting for confirmation which is our first attempt we realized we were quite keen
that the user gets the sense that things are happening snappily so that you donât feel that oh I've sent my money into the void, whats going on. but you get in fact very quickly get back some sort of notification saying okay we're seeing that somethings going on here what were doing about it and weâve tried to make that user experience so right from the moment you send your money to the moment that the bitcoin appears that the other end yourself always being notified in real time whats happening so you donât just get left with this sinking feeling of oh god
Gingeropolus:
hah hah hah hah yea i did enjoy that part of the experience like i sent my Monero there and all of a sudden you had the screen change and thereâs was a tracking number and i was like oh OK something is happening
Binaryfate:
nice to know that the effort was noticed. appreciated.
Gingeropolus:
i have a couple of questions about that whole process
Binaryfate:
yeah
Gingeropolus:
for one um, there are some merchant services i believe bitpay and coinbase being two of them i think they have roughly ten minute timeouts on a transaction so if you start a transaction then that amount of bitocin they want you to send is valid for only ten minutes to deal with the volatility a bit. do you wait for enough confirmations from Monero from the blockchain and if so is it within that limit would i have a problem with that?
so basically withing that fifteen minutes i have to send Monero to you. it has to get enough confirmations or you guys to mark it as safe and then you have to send the bitocin and so what toms asking is what are the chances of missing that window
Binaryfate:
so what we do is to give the user five minutes time window but what matters and what needs to happen within this time window is just that we actually see the transaction on the peer to peer network. if you send the transaction on time there is literally zero chance that you miss this time window. if you are just connected to the Monero network. and as soon as we actually witness the transaction on the network we stop the timer and we just wait for one confirmation before sending the bitocin. we think that for now one confirmation is way enough and we can take the risk especially because we're still dealing with very small amounts. but because we donât need the confirmation to happen in the time window but only to witness the transaction on the network its very safe for the user because you're practicality no chance to miss it
but in terms of missing the second timeout like the lock on time amount of whoever youâre paying in bitocin its quite unlikely if youâre snappy on your end as an end users i think that were just benefiting form the fact that the Monero confirmations clock in much faster than the bitcoin confirmations
Gingeropolus:
it sounds like waiting for one confirmation is plenty small time.
even if we eventually want to up that to two or three you're still within, you can get 2 or 3 Monero confirmation well before even one bitocin confirmation so no one in bitcoin world is gonna set their timeout so small because of the slow confirmations
Binaryfate:
if in the future this becomes an issue say bitpay suddenly decides to change this countdown to five minutes instead of fifteen what we could do on our side is to accept a zero confirmation transation which is exactly what bitpay is doing. based on some rules you judge whether the transation is highly likely to be spend and for now its really do it and see for our needs but its something we could do int he future.
Gingeropolus:
now if i could ask just one other question. i donât know this one that you probably might not want to answer but I'm curious how does this work on the back end. like can you give any sort of like brief synopsis of that. because I'm curious like do you take the xmr and then go and buy the bitcoin like where does the bitcoin come from in this i guess is the question.
Krongol:
yeah well, uh, in a way i think its important for the user to know at least one thing this thing is that we donât buy the equivalent of bitcoin right away because that would be possibly weakening the privacy right because you could make some time correlations because poloniex could do for instance we would use poloniex to change the Moneros immediately. for the same amount that was just sent to us. that would be an issue. so we donât do that. we are not sure how in the future how we are going to change them but for now i think we do it like once a week. so yeah for now in a way .....? and we are still figuring out what the best way for us to go financially speaking but yeah whats important to know is we donât change them back right away.
and the other thing important for the end user to know is we set our maximum based on how much bitcoin we have in our funds so we will never accept an order we cant fulfill basically. if were running low on funds.
Fluffypony:
your risk tolerance is based on how much you got in reserve
Binaryfate:
yeah so were exposing ourselves to exchange fluctuations at the moment we just take on that risk and as Jeremy says we need to come up with a plan where we protect ourselves against that.
Fluffypony:
thanks very much for the chat guys and well see everyone next week
Gingeropolus:
yeah thanks for hanging out guys
Tom:
cheers guys see ya
Binaryfate:
thinks for having us bye
Gingeropolus:
thank you all for joining it was quite a big crowd today, very awesome. thanks all for listening and tune in next week and hereâs bob with sports.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/49Documentation2017-10-20T22:13:43Zmonero-projectDocumentation*Created by: Hueristic*
How about a flowchart to start with.
*Created by: Hueristic*
How about a flowchart to start with.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/62How to setup an OpenAlias Monero address2017-10-20T22:13:42Zmonero-projectHow to setup an OpenAlias Monero address*Created by: 5w00p*
<Placeholder for my new Moneropedia OpenAlias article>
This is a Work-In-Progress.
I will be updating this page with an improved article for the OpenAlias entry in the Moneropedia.
Per funding from the Monero Comm...*Created by: 5w00p*
<Placeholder for my new Moneropedia OpenAlias article>
This is a Work-In-Progress.
I will be updating this page with an improved article for the OpenAlias entry in the Moneropedia.
Per funding from the Monero Community, this is my first article.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/101whoops something went wrong2017-10-20T22:13:41Zmonero-projectwhoops something went wrong*Created by: Gingeropolous*
when using the "notification" bell icon thingy.
*Created by: Gingeropolous*
when using the "notification" bell icon thingy.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/109Implement pagination in the forums2017-10-20T22:13:40Zmonero-projectImplement pagination in the forums*Created by: antanst*
In my humble opinion paginated threads are much more usable than the "infinite scroll" behaviour, and helps following and resuming forum visits. I believe this will also help newcomers that are used to how other fo...*Created by: antanst*
In my humble opinion paginated threads are much more usable than the "infinite scroll" behaviour, and helps following and resuming forum visits. I believe this will also help newcomers that are used to how other forums function.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/106Tail emission should be included in the Moneropedia2017-10-20T22:13:40Zmonero-projectTail emission should be included in the Moneropedia*Created by: songproducer*
*Created by: songproducer*
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/142White paper should be listed somewhere on the website2017-10-20T22:13:39Zmonero-projectWhite paper should be listed somewhere on the website*Created by: ChristopherKing42*
I know Monero doesn't have a whitepaper per se, but the cryptonote white paper would do.
*Created by: ChristopherKing42*
I know Monero doesn't have a whitepaper per se, but the cryptonote white paper would do.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/111Monero dev meeting summary 201603052017-10-20T22:13:39Zmonero-projectMonero dev meeting summary 20160305*Created by: Gingeropolous*
Open pull requests mostly just DB stuff by warptangent and hyc, and will be merged within next couple of hours. In the last couple of weeks, unit test fixes, threading fixes, "lots of little things". Hyc had ...*Created by: Gingeropolous*
Open pull requests mostly just DB stuff by warptangent and hyc, and will be merged within next couple of hours. In the last couple of weeks, unit test fixes, threading fixes, "lots of little things". Hyc had some readtxn changes. Hyc's performance changes need to wait until some kind of migration system is implemented / developed.
Fees are fine. Too soon for adjustment. Talk of "magic number automation" - fees will autoadjust one day! ArcticMine takes on researching / developing a proposal for automatically adjusting fees.
Dev Branch - the buck stops here. Moneromoo is waiting for 0.9.2 to be tagged "so that no new patches go there". So once we have 0.9.2, dev branch goes upstream (to master).
We need a library that plays well with HTTPS and support authentication and is compatible with our license.
RingCT - WarpTangent becoming familiar with what needs to be done, and RingCT development will go on newer database branch. There's some "floating point or fixed" issue that needs to be decided. Forum threads will be opened for that. Warptanget steps up to the plate to make the thread.
Changing mixin to something else is a thing that might happen, but "its a community thing, not a dev thing"
Everybody shakes hands, gives themselves pats on the back and "attaboys", and venture off into the night to go meditate on the metaphysics of mixin 0 transactions.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/180Addition for Merchants List: Giftoff.com2017-10-20T22:13:38Zmonero-projectAddition for Merchants List: Giftoff.com*Created by: amoebatron*
Addition to Merchant List
GOODS
https://giftoff.com/
(Digital Gift Cards in the UK and Europe)
*Created by: amoebatron*
Addition to Merchant List
GOODS
https://giftoff.com/
(Digital Gift Cards in the UK and Europe)
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/181Addition for Merchants List: Crypto-Games.net2017-10-20T22:13:37Zmonero-projectAddition for Merchants List: Crypto-Games.net*Created by: amoebatron*
Addition for Merchants List:-
Crypto-Games.net (ENTERTAINMENT)
*Created by: amoebatron*
Addition for Merchants List:-
Crypto-Games.net (ENTERTAINMENT)
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/195Add BIT.AC to list of Exchanges2017-10-20T22:13:36Zmonero-projectAdd BIT.AC to list of Exchanges*Created by: datapac-pw*
Please add BIT.AC (http://bit.ac) to the list of exchanges that support Monero (Instant Exchange).
https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants
Thank you.*Created by: datapac-pw*
Please add BIT.AC (http://bit.ac) to the list of exchanges that support Monero (Instant Exchange).
https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants
Thank you.https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/194Addition to the Merchant page under Services - ELG2017-10-20T22:13:36Zmonero-projectAddition to the Merchant page under Services - ELG*Created by: FilipinoLawyer*
Please add to the Merchant page under Services;
Text: Emmanuel Galang, Canada Immigration and Refugee Lawyer
Link: www.galanglaw.com
Thank you!*Created by: FilipinoLawyer*
Please add to the Merchant page under Services;
Text: Emmanuel Galang, Canada Immigration and Refugee Lawyer
Link: www.galanglaw.com
Thank you!https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/199New merchant accepting Monero2017-10-20T22:13:35Zmonero-projectNew merchant accepting Monero*Created by: zoolbia*
Wanted to notify that, my company started accepting Monero from last week in Goteborg / Sweden:
website: [www.LagaiPhone.se](url)
cellphone and laptop repair online store in Sweden*Created by: zoolbia*
Wanted to notify that, my company started accepting Monero from last week in Goteborg / Sweden:
website: [www.LagaiPhone.se](url)
cellphone and laptop repair online store in Swedenhttps://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/221New merchant to list on MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY2017-10-20T22:13:34Zmonero-projectNew merchant to list on MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY*Created by: CameronRuggles*
https://www.vesp.co/Fungible
I'd like to be listed under goods on this page: https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants
I sell mushroom cultures, mushroom growing supplies and related items such a...*Created by: CameronRuggles*
https://www.vesp.co/Fungible
I'd like to be listed under goods on this page: https://getmonero.org/getting-started/merchants
I sell mushroom cultures, mushroom growing supplies and related items such as seeds. https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/214Please add a new site to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY2017-10-20T22:13:34Zmonero-projectPlease add a new site to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY*Created by: JoelStrawnCode*
Please add https://mychain.store to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY under the Goods section.
Products can be paid for directly using Monero. Fiat currencies are not accepted.*Created by: JoelStrawnCode*
Please add https://mychain.store to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY under the Goods section.
Products can be paid for directly using Monero. Fiat currencies are not accepted.https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/228Please add a new site to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY2017-10-20T22:13:33Zmonero-projectPlease add a new site to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY*Created by: ghost*
Please add algoStrategic.com to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY under the Services section.
algoStrategic - Internet Marketing and Web Development*Created by: ghost*
Please add algoStrategic.com to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY under the Services section.
algoStrategic - Internet Marketing and Web Developmenthttps://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/issues/225Please add a new site to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY2017-10-20T22:13:33Zmonero-projectPlease add a new site to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY*Created by: kaiserex*
Please add https://www.kaiserex,com to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY under the Exchanges section.
We provide XMR exchange services and help our clients invest in Monero.*Created by: kaiserex*
Please add https://www.kaiserex,com to the MONERO MERCHANTS AND SERVICES DIRECTORY under the Exchanges section.
We provide XMR exchange services and help our clients invest in Monero.